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  • Lila An Inuiry into Morals
  • Robert M. Pirsig
  • English
  • 21 June 2019
  • 9780553299618

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  1. says:

    It’s been 21 years since I read this book and much longer since I read its predecessor ZEN AND THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE 1974 Persig’s only two books I kept seeing LILA on my bookshelf and decided it might be worth rere

  2. says:

    It took me a long time to read this book and I'm not sure how much these disparate readings affected my overall impression of the book Pirsig doesn't have a narrative structure he wanders And these wanderings tend to circle back around and all tie in to a greater point or idea he's trying to get to the root of Leaving the book for days or weeks at a time makes it hard to follow that strand and keep a sense of how the ide

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    1 The story is compelling Post post midlife crisis man meets younger voluptuous woman They travel down the river together The convention is uite cheap But he never saves her or she him and neither victimizes the other either That's good It's not really sensual except for one scene And the self portrait of the narrator is absolutely unsparing as is his portrait of the girl She's not a waif or a femme fatale but a complicated dam

  4. says:

    Robert Pirsig's previous book ZEN AND THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE is a profoundly influential book in my own life I have probably given copies of it as gifts to people than any other book except my own It is a powerf

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    What is uality? Is it a noun or a verb? Why is uality so important?These are deep uestions that affect everyone Pirsig follows up his Zen book with a smoother sophisticated and clearer book that may not be as mystifying a

  6. says:

    This was a fantastic read There were two mind blowing branches in this book The first centers around evolution and morality among the three basic forces biology society and intellectualism The second talks about morality and ties into uality in terms of metaphysics and having uality be a scientific metric to judge things

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    In societies that criminalize rather than attempt to understand mental illness artists and philosophers may be the first to have the guts to discuss the topic 'publicly' or sympathetically Such societies may first approach understanding mental illness through art rather than through education medicine or philanthropy let alone helpful 'treatment' For women wmental illness societal support toward a true understanding of

  8. says:

    There are some really interesting ideas in this book Here are my favorites in my own words mostly Darwin's Theory of Evolution fails to account for improvement; the author posits that it's not about survival it's about striving towards uality There are 2 kinds of uality Static and Dynamic Dynamic uality allows for change

  9. says:

    I bought this book in Amsterdam accidentally for €05 It was lying on an old book shelf that stood right in the street I was walking past the book shelf after a meditation session and saw the word “lila” on the cover I was in the right mood so purchased this book as a part of inspiration I haven’t read Pirsig’s first book but had heard good opinions of it before It was uite interesting to read Lila for most part of the book It is

  10. says:

    Lila An Inuiry into Morals I'm not smart enough to review this book Robert Pirsig is a certified genius; his I at age 9 was 170 I read his first book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance back in the 1970s when it was released and

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Lila An Inuiry into Morals

Work Instead of a motorcycle a sailboat carries his philosopher narrator Phaedrus down the Hudson River as winter closes in Along the way he picks up a most unlikely traveling companion a woman named Lila who in her desperate sex. Robert Pirsig s previous book ZEN AND THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE is a profoundly influential book in my own life I have probably given copies of it as gifts to people than any other book except my own It is a powerful examination of the meaning of life in a pseudo novelistic framework that makes the philosophical explorations both palatable and understandable Pirsig s seuel LILA is an attempt to follow up and expand on the discoveries of the first book While it is not an unsuccessful book it is in large far less compelling far less easily understood and far less magical than ZEN The philosophy Pirsig explores is deeply complex and intricate something that the first book managed to overcome In LILA there is some very rough slogging The novelistic approach in which the philosophy is presented as it bears on a presumably fictional story of a mentally ill young woman who falls into the company of the author s alter ego Phaedrus on a boat journey down the Hudson River But only in the latter stages of this book does that story become fascinating and in the meantime a great deal of effort must be made by minds no advanced than mine to parse and come to grips with the ruminations on Pirsig s ideas about the Metaphysics of uality Pirsig wants to create a new understanding of morality of good and his arguments are often convincing if confusing Occasionally some of his insights are riveting as when he explains the real meaning and ramifications of Victorian morality But for all its intelligence and elouence I fear this will be something of a disappointment to all but the most intellectual fans of ZEN AND THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE which still 30 years after I first read it is one of the most meaningful books in my life

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In this best selling new book his first in seventeen years Robert M Pirsig author of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance takes us on a poignant and passionate journey as mysterious and compelling as his first life changing. 1 The story is compelling Post post midlife crisis man meets younger voluptuous woman They travel down the river together The convention is uite cheap But he never saves her or she him and neither victimizes the other either That s good It s not really sensual except for one scene And the self portrait of the narrator is absolutely unsparing as is his portrait of the girl She s not a waif or a femme fatale but a complicated damaged person and him too 2 The philosophy is narratively compelling I really don t know how Pirsig manages this It s his thing isn t it Somehow even if substance vs uality metaphysics sounds like a big hobby horse to you you will want to find what the protagonist is searching for Clearly it means something to him and I as a reader found that absolutely compelling There s a particular scene about three uarters of the way through the book in which the narrator meets Robert Redford briefly in a hotel room to discuss selling the rights to his previous book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintanence where the drama of the story and the drama of the narrator s evolving ideas are particularly well integrated The scene is so lonely and absurd The juxtaposition of Robert Redford and all that meeting him ought to imply and the anonymous hotel room in NYC in the winter and the narrator s own crushingly lonely and solitary uest creates this huge tension demand for an explanation What could this possibly mean In the end even the superficial purpose of the meeting is rendered meaningless as the narrator gives Redford permission to go ahead while privately noting that he can always reverse his decision later Oddly the strange the scene feels the I felt that something important must be going on and would give Pirsig s Metaphysics of uality a chance to explain it all And 3 His ideas are genuinely interesting People who are into philosophy or lit crit will probably dismiss what he has to say as unsophisticated or uninformed basically amateurish but for those who naively wonder about whether the world might not be constituted of subjects and object or are merely willing to take Pirsig on his own terms for what insights he might have to offer his philosphizing is amazingly clear and powerful


About the Author: Robert M. Pirsig

Robert Maynard Pirsig was an American writer and philosopher mainly known as the author of the book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance An Inuiry into Values 1974 which has sold millions of copies around the world